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Nothing takes God "by surprise".  God in His Sovereignty knew mankind would rebel and so made a way, because Rev 13:8 says "He was slain from the foundation of the world".  He will return someday so that Paradise lost will be Paradise restored
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Follow up question:Since,"Paradise Lost will be Paradise Restored" here on Earth,what will happen to those who are already in Heaven?
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Great question. According to Scripture, in the present time frame until Jesus comes again, when we die our spirits go to paradise with Jesus, but our physical bodies go to the grave. At the final coming our (glorified) bodies will be reunited with our spirits. See 1 Cor 15:35-58, and 1 Thess 4:13-17, 1 Jn 3:2.
This is the eternal state of believers. Unbelievers will experience reunited bodies and spirits in the unending lake of fire. (see Rev 20:11-15, Matt 25:31-46). I pray you are among the redeemed.
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The Bible speaks of "the lake of fire" as the second death.Matthew 20:14, the lake of fire is symbolic,it represents the second death.Death is the opposite of life.Would it not be more reasonable to say that the second death means, they are cut off,forever or eternally.Respectfully, why would our Loving God, bring someone back to life, then judge him, and torture or torment that person for ever? The Bible mentions, that the wages of sin is death.Romans 6:23, not eternal suffering in a lake of fire.God is Love as you well know,that means, He is the very personification of Love.To put someone in a lake of fire and seeing that someone suffer eternally, would amount to wickedness.There is no wickedness in God as you know.Because, this issue is considered controvertial, I can not say any more in this forum.If you want to expound more on this subject, you can email me.Tks
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There are several passages of Scripture that clearly teach that Hell is a place where torment lasts ‘forever and ever’. Take a look at this passage in the Book of Revelation:
Revelation 14:9-11
     And another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. “And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; and they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
Hell is a place where those who have rejected God will (1) be tormented with fire and brimstone, and (2) the smoke of their torment will go up ‘forever and ever’
Revelation 20:10
      And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Once again we see that the wicked are tormented (1) “day and night” (continually) and (2) “forever and ever” (without end). Continual torment REQUIRES continual consciousness
Revelation 5:13-And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, “To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever.”
Revelation 4:-  And when the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to Him who sits on the throne, to Him who lives forever and ever…
Now look at these two passages carefully. John is using the expression, “forever and ever” to indicate a period of TIME and NOT a degree of intensity or completion! God deserves honor and glory FOREVER (for all eternity). God has power over everything FOREVER (for all eternity). And finally, God, as an eternal being, lives FOREVER (for all eternity). It’s really quite simple and straightforward.
The Bible also describes Hell as a place of fire and torment that cannot be quenched:
Matthew 3:12    “And His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor; and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”
Now think about this for a minute. Why is the fire itself ‘unquenchable”? Why is there a need for such a fire? If rebellious souls are destroyed completely, then there is no need for a fire that never goes out
Mark 9:43-44 “And if your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire, [where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.]
It is clear that the ‘worm’ of the damned ‘does not die.
Matthew 25:45-46- “Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
     While the notion that Hell is a place of eternal conscious torment may be offensive to some of us, it is the clear and plain teaching of the Bible.
Matt. 8:12, "but the sons of the kingdom shall be cast out into the outer darkness; in that place there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
Matt. 13:41-42, "The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire; in that place there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” See also Matt. 13:50.
Rev. 14:9-11….and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 "And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; and they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name."” See also, Rev. 21:8.
Rev. 20:10, "And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
Matt. 3:12 "And His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor; and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."
Matt. 5:22, "whoever shall say, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell." See also, Matt. 5:29, 30.
Matt. 18:8-9, "And if your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the eternal fire. 9 "And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out, and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than having two eyes, to be cast into the fiery hell."
Matt. 25:41, "Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels."
Matt. 25:46, "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
The word "eternal" in both places is "aionios" which means 1) without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be; 2) without beginning; 3) without end, never to cease, everlasting. The word "punishment" is the word "kolasis" and it means "to punish, with the implication of resulting severe suffering--'to punish, punishment.'"
Jude 7, "Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire."
"And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
Rev. 20:15, "And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."
In Luke 16:19-31 is the story of Lazarus and the rich man. Basically, Lazarus is a poor man who suffers during life. The rich man is, of course, rich. They both die. The rich man goes to Hades. Lazarus goes to Abraham's bosom, another term for paradise. In Hades, the rich man lifts up his eyes and sees Lazarus far off. He cries out to Abraham and asks for mercy because he is in agony in flame. Abraham says no. Then the rich man asks if someone from the dead were to rise and go tell his brothers not to come to this terrible place. Abraham teaches him that that will not be done either.
    Hell is a real place. It is not mere unconsciousness. It is not temporal. It is eternal torment. Perhaps that is why Jesus spoke more of hell than heaven and spent so much time warning people not to go there. After all, if people just stopped existing, why warn them? If it was temporal, they'd get out in a while. But if it were eternal and conscious, then the warning is strong.
Jesus said, "And if your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out, and throw it from you; for it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 "And if your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off, and throw it from you; for it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to go into hell." (Matt. 5:29-30).
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As you well know, the Bible was not originally written in English.It was written in Hebrew, Aramaic,  &Greek.If you research a little deeper, you will find out, that, the word,"Hell"is not from the  Apostles writings.
The word “hell” is found in many Bible translations. In the same verses other translations read “the grave,” “the world of the dead,” and so forth. Other Bibles simply transliterate the original-language words that are sometimes rendered “hell”; that is, they express them with the letters of our alphabet but leave the words untranslated. What are those words? The Hebrew she’ohl′ and its Greek equivalent hai′des, which refer, not to an individual burial place, but to the common grave of dead mankind; also the Greek ge′en·na, which is used as a symbol of eternal destruction. However, both in Christendom and in many non-Christian religions it is taught that hell is a place inhabited by demons and where the wicked, after death, are punished (and some believe that this is with torment).

Does the Bible indicate whether the dead experience pain?
Eccl. 9:5, 10: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all . . . All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol,* the place to which you are going.” (If they are conscious of nothing, they obviously feel no pain.) (*“Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB; “the grave,” KJ, Kx; “hell,” Dy; “the world of the dead,” TEV.)
Ps. 146:4: “His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts* do perish.” (*“Thoughts,” KJ, 145:4 in Dy; “schemes,” JB; “plans,” RS, TEV.)
Does the Bible indicate that the soul survives the death of the body?
Ezek. 18:4: “The soul* that is sinning—it itself will die.” (*“Soul,” KJ, Dy, RS, NE, Kx; “the man,” JB; “the person,” TEV.)
“The concept of ‘soul,’ meaning a purely spiritual, immaterial reality, separate from the ‘body,’ . . . does not exist in the Bible.”—La Parole de Dieu (Paris, 1960), Georges Auzou, professor of Sacred Scripture, Rouen Seminary, France, p. 128.
“Although the Hebrew word nefesh [in the Hebrew Scriptures] is frequently translated as ‘soul,’ it would be inaccurate to read into it a Greek meaning. Nefesh . . . is never conceived of as operating separately from the body. In the New Testament the Greek word psyche is often translated as ‘soul’ but again should not be readily understood to have the meaning the word had for the Greek philosophers. It usually means ‘life,’ or ‘vitality,’ or, at times, ‘the self.’”—The Encyclopedia Americana (1977), Vol. 25, p. 236.
What sort of people go to the Bible hell?
Does the Bible say that the wicked go to hell?
Ps. 9:17, KJ: “The wicked shall be turned into hell,* and all the nations that forget God.” (*“Hell,” 9:18 in Dy; “death,” TEV; “the place of death,” Kx; “Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB, NW.)
Does the Bible also say that upright people go to hell?
Job 14:13, Dy: “[Job prayed:] Who will grant me this, that thou mayst protect me in hell,* and hide me till thy wrath pass, and appoint me a time when thou wilt remember me?” (God himself said that Job was “a man blameless and upright, fearing God and turning aside from bad.”—Job 1:8.) (*“The grave,” KJ; “the world of the dead,” TEV; “Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB, NW.)
Acts 2:25-27, KJ: “David speaketh concerning him [Jesus Christ], . . . Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell,* neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.” (The fact that God did not “leave” Jesus in hell implies that Jesus was in hell, or Hades, at least for a time, does it not?) (*“Hell,” Dy; “death,” NE; “the place of death,” Kx; “the world of the dead,” TEV; “Hades,” AS, RS, JB, NW.)
Does anyone ever get out of the Bible hell?
Rev. 20:13, 14, KJ: “The sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell* delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.” (So the dead will be delivered from hell. Notice also that hell is not the same as the lake of fire but will be cast into the lake of fire.) (*“Hell,” Dy, Kx; “the world of the dead,” TEV; “Hades,” NE,
There is much more information to prove that,our loving God  and Creator does not put people in a literal hell, purgatory, limbo,or lake of fire.

Thank you...
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The pertinent attribute is omniscience, rather than sovereignty.

The Lord God knowing the characteristics of his creatures and knowing what they are thinking, anticipates their actions.

But the Lord God does not peer into the future to ascertain what his creatures are going to do, for that would imply that the future has been written in advance; moreover, it would imply that the future has been written by another god, Fate; for if the Lord God himself wrote the future, it would not be necessary for him to "peer."

But even if the Lord himself wrote the future which he perceives, the fact that the future has been written would imply that man has no volition.  And if man has no volition, then every commandment and every exhortation of the Scripture is fraudulent, and is a mockery of the hapless creature who is unable to choose whether to obey or disobey.
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Despite the exhortation of I Thessalonians 5:21, hardly ever does a teacher address the authenticity of the Book of Revelation.  Because of linguistic style alone, the book could not possibly have been written by the fisherman, John the Apostle.  And at every turn, the teaching of the Book of Revelation disagrees with the teaching of books which indisputably are canonical; but the Scripture is a coherent whole, John 10:35.  Thus, it is not difficult to prove conclusively that the Book of Revelation has no rightful place in the Canon of Scripture; it is a forgery.
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Above all, fire consumes.  The most lucid example of the judgment of the wicked is Gehenna, the valley of the Sons of Hinnon, which was the municipal dump of the city of Jerusalem.  Fires never were extinguished, for the flame consumed combustible waste, reducing it to ash.  Maggots never were lacking, for wherever there is a dead carcass, maggots are to be found.  The fate of anything cast into the valley was sure and utter destruction.  Whatever the worm did not devour, the flame reduced to ash.

In Matthew 10:28, Jesus does not warn of everlasting torture; rather, he warns of destruction of both body and soul in Gehenna (which the King James Version translates "Hell").  The soul is the very essence of the individual.  Destruction of the soul precludes the possibility of resurrection.
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For additional detail in answer to this question, please read my answer to the question "what actually the apple ADAM AND EVE ate in the garden represent?"

I. The issue in the Garden is government.  The Lord God anticipated the rebellion of Adam.  Adam rejected the governance of the Lord God; he wished to govern himself.  Human history is a demonstration of the fact that man is not competent to govern himself and that man is not competent to govern other men.

The Adamic Race was created and set apart for a special role, that of supplying candidates with whom the Lord may populate the offices of the Kingdom of God.  The role necessitates a transformation of character, in which the fleshly survival instincts which drive human behaviour are subordinated to the Will and the Law of the Lord God.  That transformation is the purpose of the Way of Life.  

II. All men, including Adam, are mortal.  It is by the original design of the Lord God that life in the Natural Realm goes through the cycle of birth, growth, reproduction, and death.  In the process of normal living, the body is damaged; when the damage becomes too great, the body no longer can function, and the creature (man or animal) dies.  But when eaten, the fruit of the Tree of Life provided healing and repair of damage to the fleshly body.  By eating the fruit of the Tree of Life, Adam and the Woman, though mortal, could prolong their lives indefinitely.

The penalty of eating the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was death -- physical death.  And though Adam did not drop dead on the day in which he ate of the forbidden fruit, Adam was on that day evicted from the Garden and denied access to the fruit of the Tree of Life; that denial was the SENTENCE of death, and thus, Adam DID, indeed die, physically, on the very day he ate the forbidden fruit.

III. The Plan of God is to bring into being a Natural Realm in which generation after generation of mortal creatures can live and work and play in an environment of health, and abundance, and safety, free from fear of disease, poverty, and crime, and free from governmental oppression.  The Lord designed into the Earth systems for cleansing the air, the land, and the water, so that life on the Earth can continue indefinitely.  But such operation of the Natural Realm is impossible apart from proper government.

Death is inherent to the Plan of God; except in the extraordinary case of Adam in the Garden, death is NOT the result of sin.  The Lord God does not owe everlasting life to any creature.

However, when the peoples of the Earth are governed properly, factors such as health, lifespan, literacy, and prosperity shall increase dramatically, as prophesied by passages such as Isaiah 65:20-25.  The increase is due to policies which shall be implemented and strictly enforced by the Kingdom of God.  Such policies have to do with matters such as pollution of the environment, quarantine of diseased individuals, agricultural practices, usury, education, and criminal activity.
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