Does 1 Corinthians 4:14-15 support the Roman Catholic teaching to call priests, father?

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asked Sep 1, 2016 by daniel (2,920 points)
1 Corinthians 4:14-15 (New American Bible)
I am writing you this not to shame you, but to admonish you as my beloved children. Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet you do not have many fathers, for I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

1 Corinthians 4:14-15 (Apostolic Bible Polyglot)
Not shaming you do I write these things, but as my beloved children I admonish you.  For if you should have ten thousand instructors in Christ, but not many fathers. For in Christ Jesus through the good news I engendered you.

Roman Catholics use 1 Corinthians 4:14-15 as a defense for their teaching that priests should be called father even though this teaching directly contradicts Matthew 23:9. Does 1 Corinthians 4:14-15 support this assertion even if one ignores the clear teaching in Matthew 23:9 not to call someone the spiritual title of father?

Matthew 23:9 (ABP)
And call not any of yours upon the earth father; for there is one—your father, the one in the heavens.

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answered May 15 by V37 (180 points)
For Christians there is only one lord, Jesus (1 Cor.8:6). Yet the father is not Jesus but is lord (Rv.1:8), and John even called an angel lord (kurios: Rv.7:14): we might speak of Lord Kitchener as having been an earthly lord under the heavenly lord; the Sanhedrim and the Roman Empire were to be obeyed unless their lordship usurped God’s lordship. Jesus’ original audience (not us) were to call no one teacher (Mt.23:10), yet messiah has established teachers (Eph.4:11) for his born anew audience. Context decides when lord/teacher/father words are appropriate. Only God the father is in one sense, ontological, our father, yet Jesus, Paul, and John, could call there disciples their children, by implication themselves being their fathers – many others were similarly fathers (1 Jhn.2:13), arguably fitting the term presbuteroi (elders) of the spiritual maturity required to mentor. Indeed John implied himself to be a spiritual father in the same breath as speaking of Jesus being their advocate with the father (1 Jhn.2:1): a father under the father. Presumably John had no problems with a wooden approach to Mt.23:9, an approach perhaps coming from an over-reaction to a Roman Catholic use of the term father. In short, we’re talking about how father (patēr) was meant in Jesus’ egalitarian context of Mt.23:8-9, with perhaps overtones of necessarily being followed without question as highest authority. Jesus shot down the self-exalting attitude sprung up among Jewish teachers, and said “don’t join that set”. A Baptist minister can be more scribe & Pharisee than a Papal (papa) father, and we need to see even those who serve us as doing so under God to whom we have direct access.
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answered Jun 28 by HSoler (820 points)
Very well put above and just to add to that it clearly states that we are to call no one father but the father for he is our Heavenly and spiritual father and the whole reason for Jesus was so that he would come died on the cross for all of our sins and so that we could be forgiven and have eternal life a priest a pastor a bishop no one can save us or bring us salvation but if we ask Jesus into our hearts.

 then we pray through Jesus to God, this is called and refers to Jesus as our intercessor see we have to realize that this is a holy situation you have to enter his gates with Thanksgiving in your heart and enter his courts with praise a human being is sinful no matter what they all we all sin so we couldn't ask a sinner to bring us to God to have a prayer conversatio

 And while we are on the track as far as praying to the Saints and the Rosary it's idol worship to worship Mary or anybody or anything from money to sex to women to you're even your husband and wife God should always be on the throne

 The Bible has clearly stated that once you have become a child of God IE by becoming and giving your heart to Jesus that we are and have become Saints We're All Saints so again if you pray to a saint like what does it say Jude is over the animals or the children I forget cuz I was raised Catholic we're praying to someone who's dead and can't hear us there alive and hopefully in heaven for I don't know who is in heaven or not let's me be the judge but we can't call on them to help us because they can't hear us and they don't even have any power to do anything about it even if they could hear us

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